
I was reading a friend’s blog yesterday, in which she posted a song by Peter, Paul and Mary, and was struck by one of the comments, which said something like they were never a folk music fan but did like PP&M and had several of their albums. My first thought was that the comment was ignorant, and was compounded by their saying that they had those albums. We tend to compartmentalise music into neat little boxes, and there are certain genres I don’t much care for – jazz and rap spring to mind – but I do occasionally listen to them if a fellow blogger recommends them. Probably not rap though, come to think of it! Shutting our minds off to a musical genre as ‘something I don’t like’ is narrow minded, in my view. But this got me thinking. I commented that folk music was probably the longest known style alongside classical, and has a firm place in history as being the means by which stories and news were told in days before TV and the internet. As regular readers will know I have loved folk music in many of its styles since I first knew what music was, and this has prompted me to share a couple of songs to illustrate that. Both are fairly recent, and maybe another day I’ll play some that have been handed down through the years. It is pure coincidence that both of these have a nautical theme, but as that is at the heart of much folk music it probably isn’t surprising, really. I actually played them both in the same Tuesday Tunes post a year ago, but I think they are well worth hearing again, to make my point that you shouldn’t write something off without listening to it first. If you then don’t like it, so be it, but you should at least try!
I’m particularly fond of folk music from around here, especially English, Scottish and Irish, so of course I’m starting with something from… Canada. This one is an absolute beauty, which I’m sure many of you will know:
Gordon Lightfoot wrote The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald to commemorate the sinking of the bulk carrier SS Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior on November 10, 1975. It was recorded just a month after the disaster, and was released as a single and as a track on his album Summertime Dreams in June 1976. The album made #1 in Canada and #12 in the US, but wasn’t a hit here in the UK. The single was a massive hit in North America, peaking at #1 in Canada and #2 in the US, and even managed an appearance in the UK Singles chart at #40. Gordon died in May 2023, and it made me think at the time how much we undervalued him over here: he wrote some fantastic songs and that clear, resonant voice of his was always a pleasure to hear. The video enables you to follow the story of the song through its lyrics, which are poignant, and this song is, to my mind, very much in the true folk music tradition of handing down a story through the medium of song.
Last time I played a cover of this one, but this is the original by the guy who wrote it:
Around The Wild Cape Horn was originally included on Ralph McTell’s album Somewhere Down The Road in October 2010. It is a jaunty little number, but behind it lies the story of an epic voyage around Cape Horn made by Irving Johnson in the 1920s, when he was just 20, on one of the last great sailing ships, The Peking, which is referenced in the song. There is quite a lot to learn about that voyage from a film that Irving made at the time, and to which he added a voiceover when he was in his eighties: far too much for me to include here, but if you want to know more this link to Ralph’s website fills in a lot of the background for you. It is a remarkable tale, and well worth the read.
The song was then covered by Fairport Convention for their album Festival Bell, which came out in January 2011. The band and Ralph are long time friends and there is a video of them playing the song together, but the sound quality isn’t great so, to give you a feel for their cover I’m going with this one instead:
I think that is a lovely version, and they really do justice to Ralph’s song and his lyrics. You probably noticed that Simon Nicol referred at the beginning to this being a performance for the Under The Apple Tree Sessions, which are run by the legendary UK DJ and music aficionado ‘Whispering’ Bob Harris and his son: they have given us much great music in that informal environment.
Of course I have played you these songs because I enjoy them and I hope you will too. But I’m emphasising the point I made at the outset: having a downer on folk music is, in my view, very stupid and narrow-minded. The tunes may not all be to your liking, and I guess the traditional ‘finger in the ear’ unaccompanied singing may not be to everyone’s taste, but don’t write it off without listening and learning from what you hear. If you don’t want to read history books there is another way, though that may being deprived from many, especially in certain parts of the US where narrow-mindedness seems to be the order of the day.
There is a reason why folk music and its traditions have lasted for a thousand years or more – something to be borne in mind when you hear the latest flash in the pan talentless oik making loads of money from drivel. If you enjoy that, of course it is fine and I wouldn’t want to stop you listening to it: I just prefer my music to say something to me, to tell me something, to appeal to my heart and soul and to my mind.
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I love to listen to what you share Clive. As a youngster/young adult, (not sure why) but never been into music. Maybe being the youngest of 4 and the siblings always had music going, so never cared to exploring on my own.
Thanks so much for participating and sharing at SSPS 324. See you again next week at #325 https://esmesalon.com/tag/seniorsalonpitstop/
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Thank you, Esme, I’m pleased you enjoy the music. I’ll be there next week, as always 😊
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Peter, Paul, and Mary. Now there’s a group I hadn’t thought of in a long, long time. I recall being exposed to them in the 2nd or 3rd grade. Our teacher would get one of those old phonographs from the library, and then play vinyl 45s on it. My first exposure to Folk Music. Been a fan ever since.
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Good to hear. As you can tell from this I’m British and we have a long tradition of folk music here.
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Something we’ve lost a little of along the way here I sometimes fear.
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From our perspective we have hundreds more years of it, so the US is playing catch up! I like a fair bit of American and Canadian folk music but my real love is for that from these isles – it’s what I grew up listening to.
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That’s a good way to look at it. Thanks.
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I also enjoy folk music, along with most genres. Unlike you I do like jazz but I can do without rap music. While rock will most likely always be my favorite, I’ve grown to like country and bluegrass in recent years. And I have you to thank for exposing me to many different genres and artists these past few years!
and Gordon Lightfoot was a great singer-songwriter..
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There is more than enough music to suit every taste, which is one of the reasons I enjoy it. This post was prompted by what I saw as an ignorant comment on another blog post – can you tell?
Gordon Lightfoot was one of the best, though very much overlooked over here.
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yes, I could tell 🙂
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Gordon Lightfoot – always has, always will have a place on my playlists.
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All good tunes none of which I had heard before or don’t recollect hearing as I like Fairport Convention. I hope you have a great weekend, Clive xx
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Happy to have introduced you to some new ones, Carol. You have a great weekend too 😊 xx
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Excellent song selections, Clive; Edmund Fitzgerald is, of course, a classic … deeply moving lyrically and musically.
All this talk about not liking folk (or any other music genre, for that matter) reminds me of my kids who claimed they didn’t like mashed potatoes without ever having tried them! It’s a comment only a child can get away with. And speaking of childish comments, I believe the one you referenced in your opening paragraph went something like this: “I was never (ever!) a folk fan but PP&M I did like and actually owned several of their albums. I loved Mary Travers looks and style.“
I have no words. 🤦🏼♀️
Thanks, Clive. 😊
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Thank you, Nancy. They made my point for me. That comment really annoyed me, as you can probably tell! I bet that’s one person who won’t be following my blog anytime soon 🤣
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Maybe not even mine! 😂
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I kike the Gordon Lightfoot tune, but my favorite of his will always be If You Could Read My Mind.
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I gotta go for Black Day in July, but most of his music was upper echelon. I met alightfot at a party in about 68 or 69. He did not impress me as a person.
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I like that one too, but this one was better as an illustration of the point I was making.
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Well put, Clive. We shouldn’t be closed minded when it comes to music. Just like food, sometimes we’re pleasantly surprised.
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Thanks, Pete. As you can tell, that comment annoyed me! As you say, there is something for everyone.
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Through various blogs I have discovered that Folk Music is a much more varied genre of music than I thought. Loved both of these Clive.
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It isn’t just the Spinners in chunky white jumpers, is it! I’m glad you enjoyed these – two good examples of how folk music can tell a story, which is how it began.
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OMG, yes! Val Doonican was renown for his sweaters too!
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I didn’t think much of him either! Paddy McGinty’s Goat isn’t my idea of folk music 🤣
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Haha. Nor mine, but some of his ballads were restful on the ears.
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My Mum loved him. I didn’t 😊
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My Mum loved to hear Ken Dodd sing, but couldn’t bear to watch him!
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Understandable!
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Yep, I mirror your thoughts on Jazz and rap, and Ghostmmc’s on Opera but we shouldn’t close and box everything off into our own neat little perceived tight-minded constructs. I don’t listen to a lot of jazz opera, metal or rap but they do run and bleed into other music I do prefer. It’s unlikely I’ll listen to full-on Death Metal delivered with a dollop of jazz, a chunk of Pavarotti and a bunch of the choicest rap thrown in, but a little of each- in proportion- to my more (MOR?) middle-of-the-road classic rock fare is fine. (But, yeah, with rap particularly a little usually goes way too far.🙄)
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It’s a case of each to their own, I think. There is more than enough music to go round to keep everyone happy, even those with what to me are dubious tastes 🤣
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Jazz can be boring, but it can also be quite exciting. Mostly it depends on who is playing what composition. I spent many years volunteering at the Jazz Winnipeg festival. The nicest person anyone could ever hope to meet was Oscar Peterson, pianist.
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Well said Clive I have always loved folk of all types! I have often used The Edmund Fitzgerald on my blog and I also love Around the wild Cape Horne .. I love stories and folk music including old English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Cornish and indeed folk from all around the world. They tell us amazing tales.
I love all music all lyrics and have very eclectic tastes.
😁 As you know I also have ( to your mind ) some dubious modern taste too.
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Some people disparage it, but I often think they aren’t giving it a fair chance. I love all of those too, and have played others from around the world on my blog – Russia and Germany in particular.
We all have elements in our musical tastes that others might disagree with. So what? If you like it that’s all that matters.
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Hear hear 😀😀
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Nothing better than a good story put to music by talented musicians!
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Spot on! These are some of the best 😊
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Folk music hardly entered my mind until fairly recently (well, if you count 10 years as recent). The late Sandy Denny became a favourite and now I’m in the process of listening to more of Fairport Convention.
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It’s a very open genre. Two of my favourites there, and you’ll be seeing my absolute top band on SLS this week.
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I’ve always liked folk music too. Of course Gordon Lightfoot songs are wonderful, and these two videos of the ship sailing around Cape Horn were very good. I’d not heard that one before. 🙂
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Glad to hear that – too many people put it down. I’m pleased you liked these songs too 😊
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I don’t dismiss any type of music. There are some I like better, but I’ll usually find a few songs and artists I like in any kind. As you say, I’m not crazy about jazz, rap, or opera, but I do have some of these that are really good to hear. 🙂
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That’s the important thing, isn’t it – keeping an open mind. There is almost always something to enjoy in most music.
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I have always loved folk music. I think it is the story telling aspect of it. Also the activist in my soul always liked the call to action by such writers as Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan.
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I love folk songs and these two are great examples. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is a classic to be sure. I love that folks other than Canadians like it too.
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Thank you, Darlene. Glad to know you love folk music too – it is still so important. The Wreck has a haunting quality about it, so fitting for its theme. What’s not to love?
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